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shares so registered (unless the transfer is executed in the Colony)

If then Companies registered in Hongkong but carrying business in Treaty ports take advantage of this Order, persons holding shares will not have to pay Double Duty, in themselves the view expressed by I.O. will thus be met.

As the Hongkong Govt will get a quid pro quo in the shape of annual licence for keeping local registers, there is no reason to object to this arrangement, but I cannot see why the I.O. should have called the double payment "hardship" - especially where De Beers Consolidated Mines Ltd. of S.Africa, a company registered in S.Africa, was levied English Income Tax on the Shares.

Sanction Order GR872/08

His Excellency

I am to be referred to I.O. with reference to Legislation to it. I do not assume that a violation of this kind is competent to the Legislature Party to pass such an Act as the Act of 1856 providing for the keeping by English Companies of local registers in the Colonies, but I am not clear whether the legislation of Hong Kong can make provision for transactions by Hong Kong companies outside the Colony.

It will be said that the main object of the order is the issue in Home Jurisdiction of a licence to keep "local registers" elsewhere - e.g. a transaction within the jurisdiction of the Legislature. But Sec 4 (4) provides for the manner in which local registers are to be kept in China, Japan, Shanghai, etc., and are, in my opinion, ultra vires.

I incline to think that in view of its real object, the whole Order is questionable.

If duty has been paid on Shares in H. Kong, I think the principle "mobilia sequuntur personam" - the deceased proprietor and not the place of registration is liable for the personal duty.

It seems to have been represented to take out domicil in Hong Kong. Other assets actually in that Colony are not, however, into this now, especially if the Order promulgated to be intra vires.

We are, but to have the opinion of the BofT on it before sanctioning it.

I share Pusley's doubt on sending to I.O. I have thought it is for bringing direct the I.O.'s views to the Board of Trade. Their views should, I think, be before the Law Officers if we go to them.

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shares so registered (unless the transfer is executed in the Colony) If then Companies registered in Hongkong but carrying business in Treaty ports take advantage of this Order, persons holding shares will not have to pay Double Duty, in themselves the view expressed by I.O. will thus be met. As the Hongkong Govt will get a quid pro quo in the shape of annual licence for keeping local registers, there is no reason to object to this arrangement, but I cannot see why the I.O. should have called the double payment "hardship" - especially where De Beers Consolidated Mines Ltd. of S.Africa, a company registered in S.Africa, was levied English Income Tax on the Shares. Sanction Order GR872/08 His Excellency I am to be referred to I.O. with reference to Legislation to it. I do not assume that a violation of this kind is competent to the Legislature Party to pass such an Act as the Act of 1856 providing for the keeping by English Companies of local registers in the Colonies, but I am not clear whether the legislation of Hong Kong can make provision for transactions by Hong Kong companies outside the Colony. It will be said that the main object of the order is the issue in Home Jurisdiction of a licence to keep "local registers" elsewhere - e.g. a transaction within the jurisdiction of the Legislature. But Sec 4 (4) provides for the manner in which local registers are to be kept in China, Japan, Shanghai, etc., and are, in my opinion, ultra vires. I incline to think that in view of its real object, the whole Order is questionable. If duty has been paid on Shares in H. Kong, I think the principle "mobilia sequuntur personam" - the deceased proprietor and not the place of registration is liable for the personal duty. It seems to have been represented to take out domicil in Hong Kong. Other assets actually in that Colony are not, however, into this now, especially if the Order promulgated to be intra vires. We are, but to have the opinion of the BofT on it before sanctioning it. I share Pusley's doubt on sending to I.O. I have thought it is for bringing direct the I.O.'s views to the Board of Trade. Their views should, I think, be before the Law Officers if we go to them. WBC 18/1 Alt. Jan.
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shans so registerd (unless the transfor is executed in the (olony)

If then Companies registend in Hongkong but carrying business in Treaty port's lake advantage of this Ordre, persons holding shares will

not have to pay

Souble

Suty,

in thems

othe

view expressed by 7.0. will thus be met.

As the Hongkong Govt will get

FYT

quid pro quo

in

the shape of annual licence for keeping local

registers, there is

10

see

Mo

the

rason

to object

this arrangement, but I cannot-

why the 7.0. should have a called the double payment

"hardship" - especially

De Beers

Casa.. 8.

CELA

of

O

where

in view of the

English Income Tax

was leviss

on the Shares

company registerd in SAfrica

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стру оз 872/08

his Bottes

hur Cox

تان

LF asend

to 7.0. with reference to

Ajsation to it

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Assumme, that be piolation of this kind is

Co

utton vivo I sa This of course competent to the heparins Partt to

pass such an Act as the Act of 1853 providing,

the keeping by English Companses of local rustin in the Colonies, but I am not clear

x wo -

on all

profili mad

soliciton

the Co

Jul 21.

201

130

can make provision

that the legislaten of Hong Kongy

for transactions bey Hong Kong compence's "is

actaich the colony-

ane place

If will I said that the main object of the order is

the issue in Home Mong

Home Mary of a licence to keep "local registeos" alsewhere - e. a transaction within the leegislation jurisdictions of the ith Lege's latein But Ssc 4 (4)+t() provide for the manner

in which local requites are to be kept in 2.9., Japan of Shane, tai and are, in my opinion, utton

I indime to think that in vrees of its real objeck, is

wine in as

P

the whole

questionable.

Cas

con" sent

I on the hard

use to hows been paid

Shares as

of

G7.0. us

duty might

in H. Kong, I think. The proamial property "sreponatur personam"

the deceased proprector and not the place of reestration.

wistable for the personal

It seems to have her

representations to lake out domas in it thong at.

won other assets actually

Stace an all unless the co Thars wan

say

50

aun

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in that colony for need not, howeous. into this now, expecially if the order promouenced to be intin wires ]

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it before sanctioning

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sunding to 7.0.

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them of the FD. Their views sh) Ithink be before the Lo if we go to thear

Hopwood be integ

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